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Shane Hipps is pastor of Trinity Mennonite Church, a growing, urban, Anabaptist congregation. Prior to accepting his call as a pastor, Shane was a strategic planner in advertising where he gained experience in understanding media and culture. Much of his time was spent working on the multimillion-dollar communications strategy for Porsche Cars North America.
Several years into his career, he had a “Damascus” experience in which he realized he was spending his life working diligently to perpetuate consumer culture and promote values that ran counter to his most deeply held beliefs. So he left advertising to pursue his long held interest in spirituality and theology.
He went on to earn a Master of Divinity from Fuller Theological Seminary, and in 2004 accepted a call to serve as Lead Pastor at Trinity. Shane is a dynamic communicator, author, and sought after speaker. He lives with his family in Phoenix, Arizona.
Fuller Theological Seminary…Why am I not surprised?
His second talk at Rob Bell’s preaching communicating brainwashing conference even left this poor man who was there to twitter this comment:
DH Bromley—sorry, but Shane Hipps just lost me with his second talk. I’m pretty sure he’s wrong on the physical-energetic-essential distinction. I agree. Personally this was not my favorite session. I’m really curious how he knows any of what he said was true regarding our ‘bodies’ and the idea of Essence. Of all the things he could have talked about?! Odd.
What was so odd? Well, we say thanks for the Live Blogging here, as he tries to keep up. What makes it more confusing is the talk is recorded end to beginning…but you will get the New Age gist-HT Jeremy Bouma
3:11—PRACTICES OF ENERGY AND ESSENCE
1) Practices of Energy
First understand Physical is the conductor of Energetic body. Like copper conducts electricity. How posturing body kinks the hose…and hinders God’s divine energy from conducting.
Also realize that we are imitative creatures…so the energy you bring with you to the ‘pulpit’ will be sent to those in the community.
Can do exercises, yoga, ti-chi to retrain the body to unkink the energy.
So the energy we are to bring to the pulpit comes from yoga, ti-chi, and this is what we are to send to the congregation? I thought that a Christian minister was to be filled with the Spirit of God and preach the Word of God by which the Holy Spirit acts in illuminating the scripture to the believers in the congregation? I thought we were to imitate Christ, and not the Pastor’s energy. I always wondered why Doug Pagitt had his church do Yoga in the morning. Maybe they all needed to unkink the energy so they could understand where he was coming from.
2) Practice of Essence
Can develop techniques to uncover our essence. Most are silence and solitude.
I am sorry, I really thought that I wanted my flesh to be dead and live according to Jesus’ Spirit. I need to listen to HIM!
Important to remember: the
EssenceForceMatrix is something you must eat and know…not read about and believe in. Big difference between believing and knowing.
Trust the force Luke. You must quit thinking and start knowing, Neo. Swallow the red pill. Hit the Rabbit Hole….whoops I thought I was in Star Wars or the Matrix for a minute.
Ways to taste our Essence: through breath. BREATH AND SPIRIT are one and the same…ancient language attests to this. We have separated two things never intended to be separate. Every time we see SPIRIT in the Scriptures we can replace with BREATH. If you want to know what God is really like, contemplate the nature of your breath…
No, if you want to know what God is really like, know Jesus through the Word of God and by the power of the Holy Spirit!
In your Essence is a place of unending peace. You will always have it, no matter what happens, and you will always have it. It is the source of wisdom and compassion.
Our goal should be to cultivate our connection to our Essence in order to help people connect to God.
May we all continue to open ourselves, energy, and essence to experience God to better conduct God’s divine light into the world…
All I can say is Ruach. Really, am I insane, or is this really Depak Chopra speaking here? The source of Wisdom is supposed to be God.
James 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him.
And what we really need is to know Jesus, not our breath, not our wisdom-according to Paul:
1 Corinthians 1:24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
2:34—When you live in your essence is the gesture of the Spirit…waves on the same ocean. Wide open, free, unchanging, one with God.
Jesus developed mastery over the physical body through fasting, celibacy, carpentry; mastered energy by transmitting energy by healing, channeled anger to over turn tables, knew energy went from him when he was touched on cloak.
Jesus did not develop mastery; He was the one true God, fully God, fully man. Everything was created by Him, and in Him all things hold together (John 1:3, Col 1:15-17) He did not channel anything, energy did not pass through Him. He is fully God and fully man. He was always in full control. He did not need those things to master his physical body, he was always master over it. He did those things to demonstrate to us how we could follow his example.
Jesus also mastered ESSENCE. Had a commitment to develop access and aware of ESSENCE as us. His conviction Jesus essence and ours is not different…he just came to help us access it and be aware of it and develop it.
FATHER FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. Deep mastery of his Essence. Why about Essence? Body is LAND…Energy is OCEAN…Essence is the SKY. Cannot pierce or stab the sky. Only dwelling from this ‘place’ can you dwell in infinite peace. When you dwell in forgiveness it is inevitable to be in the Essence.
This sounds strangely like this…
This is what this knowledge does – it helps us to see that we, in reality, have that divine Essence within us. We are that divine Essence. When we realize that, fear disappears. Anger, greed, malice and hate also disappear, because the Atma, the Soul, is above all these things – it is ever pure.
From this
2:28—THE MEDIUM IS THE MESSAGE
Who we are…you and I are as a person is ultimately the message. Not just words. Who I am is the message. We’re gonna explore the medium of the Human being.
First we have a body…dont under estimate the power of a body. God himself EMBODIED. Our bodies are a powerful medium…and have three different aspects of the Human Being: Physical, Energetic, Essential.
Physical: everything that’s…physical about us!
Energetic: this is the part cant measure and interact with our 5 senses. The sensation going on…warm, radient, open, expansive, vast of ANGER, LOVE, SADNESS, CREATIVITY, SEXUAL (which is connected to life, creativity, connectedness), MENTAL PROCESSES, PRESENCE, etc…And these energies need to be cultivate, because they can atrophy. People have varying ‘footprint sizes’ of that energy. (ie Rob Bell vs. me! ) People experience those energies differently.
Essential: Deepest part of who we are. Very different than the two. This one is UNCHANGING. It is also UNLIMTED. Open, boundless, always free. Nothing you can do to develop and expand. The only thing that changes is access to it. What changes is peoples awareness of their essence.
(WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN?)
Example: Mother Theresa. Had an ordinary body, charisma/energy. But LIVED in this place of fearlessly, endlessly giving her life away. Lived with the same thing God was made of. Same DNA of the Divine. When you know you are made of the same stuff of God you are free.
(ummm…these statements appear to be incredibly panentheistic. no ontological distinction?)
What does this even mean? I will tell you, my friend.
Zondervan, Rob Bell, Peter Rollins, Shane Hipps, Brian McLaren, Shane Claibourne, Doug Pagitt, Tony Jones et.al are promoting another faith, one that is different than the one that is presented in the Bible. They are giving you another Jesus, one that is not even close to the one presented in the Bible. Rob Bell was complaining about the strange things people accuse him of, and he allows this guy on stage? This is another Jesus; it is not rephrasing, using postmodern language, blah blah blah…it is simply another Jesus. Emergence Christianity is preparing the way of the antichrist.It is one world, one faith syncretism. Everybody is going to heaven, after all. We can all practice whatever faith we want, we can even mix them together in a kool aid and drink it.
That feeling in your stomach Jeremy and DH Bromley? That was the spirit within you telling you to run far away.
The sky is falling! The skyyyyyyyyyyy is fallllllllllllling!
Or perhaps our faith is evolving.
pardon my candor, but i find your entire argument sarcastic and disrespectful. As one that attended the conference, I can tell you that you’ve interpreted this stuff wrong, and you’re most certainly not telling the truth in love. You say that there’s a new Jesus being created when you didn’t even think for two days before posting a response on your blog. Sadly, your response makes you just like the friends of Job that talked to him after his life was in shambles. You’re scared that God will no longer fit into the little box of what you say He can do. Boldly go and sin no more, brother
~Samar
“He did not channel anything, energy did not pass through Him. ”
perhaps you should check your scriptural knowledge before you criticize someone else’s.
Immediately Jesus, perceiving in Himself THAT THE POWER PROCEEDING FROM HIM HAD GONE FORTH, turned around in the crowd and said, “Who touched My garments?” -Mark 5:30 (emphasis added)
This is not Biblical Christianity. To take one small verse within the gospel narratives and form a new doctrine is deception. People are hungry for the new and the intellectual, they are bored with the old.
All this energy/essence/sky etc. stuff is intellectual voodoo, and all the sponsers of that conference are heretics. They have departed from the faith in their teachings.
I can take a verse and teaching anything as well:
Jesus said, “I am not of this world”.
Interpretation: Jesus was an alien.